Edit on July 7, 10:15am: This brief paper puts forth in lives the difference between current standards and CEM: With only a 30 mile per hour impact, 55 lives would have been lost in the demonstrated collision with FRA equipment, but none with a CEM consist.
So is the top one supposed to be current FRA standards? And what would the bottom one be?
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The bottom one is cars retrofitted with a fairly basic CEM system.
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ReplyDeleteSteve, since apparently I can't comment on your Forbes posts without being a Forbes member, I'd like to add that it gets worse with your last sentence. 1950s-era lightweight cars were actually lighter than FRA-standard "modern" equipment. The B&M even had Talgo trains pulled by Alcos--no cinderblocks or anything! That's right, the FRA has been overweighting passenger equipment since the day it was first signed into law.
ReplyDeleteIf there was ever an instance of out-of-control insane regulation (beyond just bad regulation), it's the FRA.
So Paulus, what would the CEM system displayed in the video fall into in the realm of railroad safety standards? Is it similar to UIC standards? I just want an understanding of where it stands.
ReplyDeleteI'm not 100% sure on what the UIC standards are (I'll admit to not looking into the specific requirements before) or which were tested here. I believe, however, that it was designed to test the standards described here:
ReplyDelete"The train level requirements specify a collision scenario for which there must be no intrusion into the occupied areas and limits on the relative velocities at which the operator and passenger may impact interior surfaces. The car and mechanism level requirements follow from the train level requirements. The car level requirements include specifications for a crush zone at the cab end of the cab car capable of absorbing 3.0 million ft-lbs of energy and crush zones at the non-cab end of the cab car and each end of trailer cars capable of absorbing 2.0 million ft-lbs. Specifications are also provided for the crush zone kinematics and the target force/crush characteristics of the crush zones. Mechanism level requirements include specifications for the CM, LTM, and PEAM."
I've also added to the main post a link to research related to this test about the fatality levels involved with such a crash with a full loaded commuter train.
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ReplyDeleteSince they aren't safety regulations, can we call the FRA regulations "Schmafety Regulations"?
ReplyDeleteThe video is "private"
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