tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7903937763350788308.post1384739384076105003..comments2023-04-27T03:19:55.560-07:00Comments on Reason & Rail: Minor obstacles and interesting information for All Aboard FloridaPaul Drucehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01856513230667005087noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7903937763350788308.post-30047973495387476132013-08-16T17:50:52.730-07:002013-08-16T17:50:52.730-07:00I think eventually you will see a stop in the Coco...I think eventually you will see a stop in the Cocoa area. AAF will poo-poo this while negotiations are on going with the beach line folks but once the track is in place.....<br /><br />There are also two other Florida East Coast rail projects in the works that may come into play here. One is to bring barge traffic inland from Port Canaveral to Titusville and then load on to rail cars. The second is actually running rails out to Port Canaveral. There's plenty of speculation that AAF is a way to get FEC's foot in the door to also run freight inland. <br /><br />So imagine this: a direct passenger route from o-town to Port Canaveral (which is in the process of enlarging their passenger ship berths) using existing rail on a privately owned railway. Unless there is some sort of non-compete clause in the land deals for 99 years I think the expressway authority would be S.O.L. if AAF wanted to tap into this revenue stream once the rails are in place. <br /><br />There are THOUSANDS of people already getting shuttled to the port from o-town to start their cruises, mainly on buses. Now imagine the passenger rail link in place. AAF could get all of those bussed folks. Now consider cruise ships doing day trips to Disney/Sea World/Universal as a stop over on their cruises originating from points other than port canaveral. A cruise AND go to Disney? Hells yeah - Ka-ching, ching, ching goes AAF's wallet X thousands and thousands. Miami to Orlando ridership would be a joke compared to Port Canaveral to Orlando AND back.<br /><br />There are way too many reasons for there to be a Cocoa/port canaveral connection for it not to happen at some point. If I was AAF, I'd absolutely have my lawyers concocting my "ace-in-the-hole snatch the beach line traffic" plan in the works.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7903937763350788308.post-38170713435481769512012-09-08T09:09:58.613-07:002012-09-08T09:09:58.613-07:00Not Miami, but possibly West Palm Beach.Not Miami, but possibly West Palm Beach.Alonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17267294744186811858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7903937763350788308.post-60841127797829462772012-09-06T10:06:15.942-07:002012-09-06T10:06:15.942-07:00They very well may depending on how the airlines p...They very well may depending on how the airlines present service. It's not in their interests, after all, to have to have aircraft serving multiple locations in Florida from each airport (and vice versa). Depending on fares and whatnot, I could see it taking over a large portion of their service to other Floridian services, treating it as equivalent to a connecting flight.Paul Drucehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01856513230667005087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7903937763350788308.post-79231397926765387802012-09-05T13:36:22.041-07:002012-09-05T13:36:22.041-07:00"Orlando will become the hub airport and siph..."Orlando will become the hub airport and siphon a good deal of traffic away from the others."<br /><br />I don't think so. This is not High Speed Rail, but higher speed rail. So the time factor is much larger to go from Orlando to Miami than it would be from Paris to Lyon. It is true that Paris works likes a hub airport; my travel agent says, "we just need to get you to Paris and you can catch a train anywhere from there." I doubt that anyone heading to Miami is going to fly into Orlando and then take the train. The Amateur Transporterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11004281174306673509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7903937763350788308.post-19874074863264732662012-09-02T09:16:40.694-07:002012-09-02T09:16:40.694-07:00just a comment or two on this. it appears the the...just a comment or two on this. it appears the the orlando-orange county expressway authority (that runs the beachline toll road) is trying to protect their interests and play hardball. it might also be local politics appearing. i know here in tampa the local tollway authority is very territorial and defends its independence. however, i believe the state owns the ROW and as noted in the article, it will be leading the negotiations with AAF. <br />as far as the airport goes, the new parking garage will not just be for AAF is my understanding. the airport has talked of building a new south terminal and needing more parking for future growth. so the AAF project might move up the timeline for construction of the monorail and garage, but it will be built eventually, with or without AAF there. i agree AAF should pay for part of it, but not 100% as it will eventually serve a greater purpose later.<br /><br />brianAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com